Curse

Lord Sojar · Nov 01, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Ok, so I have an issue, and I am completely baffled by it..

I have been running Guild Wars at MAX settings, 4xAA, 1920x1200, and it ran @ 60-70+ FPS.

Now, since Nightfall, my performance has been doing something very strange...

First, my FPS has dropped to between 17-40. Now, I am not concerned so much with FPS being between 30-40... but 17 is pushing it....

BUT! The MAIN issue isn't that FPS drop, its the random freezing. The game every 10 secs or so will Hang.... by hang I mean, the graphics will freeze, FPS drops to 1-2 according to -perf, and then will come unstuck after about 1/2 sec and I will be in a different location if I was running forward.

My specs are:

AMD 4000+ AM2
4GBs DDR2-800 RAM in Dual Channel
Seagate Perpendicular HDD 320GB SATA 3.0Gbps
Dual 7900GTs in SLi
Abit Fatality AM2 Mobo

Internet Connection: T3 Network @ my apartment via Outercom.

I have no firewalls on anymore, nothing. This is really frustrating. I built this PC from scratch, worked hard, and it's my baby.... any ideas?

Brother Redmund · Nov 01, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

I get this same problem occasionally. My PC isn't as "beasty" as yours but certainly should have enough grunt to run GW no worries, and I have a similar problem where I get like a "lock-up", everything freezes from camera, cursor, sound etc etc. This goes for 10-20 seconds, then a warp all over the place until it catches up...

MaglorD · Nov 01, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

Are you sure this isn't plain old lag due in your case to high packet loss?

Lord Sojar · Nov 01, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaglorD

Are you sure this isn't plain old lag due in your case to high packet loss?

Well, I am not 100% sure, but when I try and minimize, it is slow as can be...

But, on another note... sometimes when I am loading a map, it will sit at 0% and never try and load, and my whole internet seems to crash when that happens. Example: I will minimize and go to guru, and guru will never load, or google, or anything. I have to disable and restart my network adapter or try and repair it. Sometimes takes me doing that 3 times and restarting Guild Wars a few times. I just don't get it...

Lord Sojar · Nov 09, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25

Bump? Anyone have ANY ideas? I welcome them.

Y.T. · Nov 12, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

i'm freezing and then i have to reboot.... rly weird, its not lag (i'm laggin alot so i know) - the whole screen just freezes, if my char was running, she just freezes mid-step, f12 dosnt work 2

how can i fix it?

Mesmer in Need · Nov 13, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

compare the system req on the gwf or gwp box to the nf box. oh look the req increased. theres your answer.

Tachyon · Nov 13, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

compare the system req on the gwf or gwp box to the nf box. oh look the req increased. theres your answer.

Excuse me, but did you actually read the OP's post? If you did then you'd notice that he states quite clearly what system he's running. The system he posted should run Nightfall with no problem whatsoever!

To the Op,

My guess would be it's nothing more than the dreaded lag causing the problem. It certainly sounds like it by what you describe.

Lord Sojar · Nov 13, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Here is another update to my issue. When I minimize Guild wars, my internet won't load either..... I am not too sure why this might be... Port forward issue maybe? A lot of ports on my T3 are closed because it is free. I am thinking about paying fee to open them. Think that may have something to do with this?

To Mesmer in Need: Yeh, I did check box. I think my system can handle big mean Guild Wars, lol.

Samueldg · Nov 13, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

hate to be able to only add "me too" but me Too...

ive got the same stuff going on..

Bkobe7 · Nov 13, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53

After your hardware check outs to be in working order and the drivers are updated, the next things I would suspect are overclocking (stability) and overheating issues. Give your entire machine a good dusting, it can only bring good. But because you said your internet crashes, I have a hunch that your problem lies with your connection. Adapter working properly? Wireless? Many people sharing your connection? Sadly, free internet could very well be your problem =\

Nov 13, 2006, 08:08 AM // 08:08

welcome to the world of lag.

its been happening to ALOT of people. you are not alone.

its no your pc. trust me. ive done everything under the sun to mine only to realize its nightfall.

until or if a fix is in place, theres nothing you can do other then complain to support.

defragged, -imaged, reinstalled guildwars, contigged, reinstalled over 7 different video drivers, ran hijackthis, killed every program in background and tried ,virus scanned with 3 different programs, and ultimately reformatted and installed just windows and needed drivers.

and i point you to this thread.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10073352

Ziil · Nov 13, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

The screen hanging is usually caused by small amounts of ram witch is not the case as i see

or by some program hogging all the cpu. I'd suggest you run some antivirus/spyware programs to see if it could be a one them that's causing the problems other than that I'm not sure, maybe gw.dat is corrupted or your pc is overheating (i doubt it actually but cleaning pc from dust is never a bad idea

)
The problem can't be the connection because that would just make you unable to move or use any skills but you would be able to look around your charecter freely. The screen freezing is caused but hardware or in your case ( i believe ) software ( viruses, spyware )
One other thing, maybe what happened was that an antivirus program started running and it hogged all resources. I had a similar problem with Windows defender a lil' while back ( one of it's processes started hogging cpu for no reason, it wasn't doing a scan )but now it's all ok

Nov 13, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

dude did you read my post LOL

somehow i think not.

ALOT of people are having this problem.

and i listed everything ive tried. nothing has helped.

Ziil · Nov 13, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

darn I don't know how could I have missed your post I read the other thread soon after I made my post

and this lag thingy seems pretty strange

Just ignore my previous post

Nov 13, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37

np man.

i just hooked up my desktop. its been down for a while since my recent move.

dfi nfii ultra infinity mobo
amd 2500 mobile clocked 11x250"2.8gig" at 1.9V
2x 1 gig mushkin ddr400 clocked at 250mhz 3.3volt 2-2-2-11
ati 9800 pro 256 meg, not overclocked suprisingly
dual wd sata raptor 10k drives running raid-0
danger den maze4 cpu block and gpu block with standard 120mm radiator.<--water cooling.

suprise suprise. guild wars still stutters.
its definitely either connection or on their end.

Ziil · Nov 14, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02

After reading both threads it seems more and more logical that the problem lies in GW clients faulty or just not very well optimized coding because i still don't think that this could be caused by connection lag. I don't have Nightfall myself so I can't test it but I think that we just have to wait and hope that a-net will find the source of this screen freezing big fps losses.

Nov 14, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

so far the best answer i got from tech support is, " well you know, the requirements did go up."

and ya know what.

Both my systems are over the requirements!

this lag will only get worse and worse as they release more expansions.

when more and more people complain about it, theyll be so deep in shit trying to find the problem, they wont know where to start looking, and thats the sad part.

this is my guarenteed last purchase from ncsoft or arenanet.

Gorebrex · Nov 15, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Well, I am not 100% sure, but when I try and minimize, it is slow as can be...

But, on another note... sometimes when I am loading a map, it will sit at 0% and never try and load, and my whole internet seems to crash when that happens. Example: I will minimize and go to guru, and guru will never load, or google, or anything. I have to disable and restart my network adapter or try and repair it. Sometimes takes me doing that 3 times and restarting Guild Wars a few times. I just don't get it...

That makes it sound like you connection is the problem, especially if youre losing all internet, not just GW. Have you tried a new adapter? What adapter are you using now? Im not sure what port GW is on(dont recall right now), but that could be it as well. I THINK its port 80.

tasha · Nov 15, 2006, 02:44 PM // 14:44

While Nightfall has raised the bar on the technical side of things, there are a couple of things that could be causing the problem. It looks as though your PC and connection needs a health check.

My first suggestion, since you first described a graphics hang up style problem rather than net connection, would be to check the background processes of your PC. So many programs install updaters or quickstart programs that run on start up and take up resources without you necessarily being aware of it. The extra strain from Nightfall may be enough to make your PC slow. Doing a Google search on "msconfig" will tell you how to disable the unnecessary programs.

Your net connection also sounds like it needs a tune up as others here have suggested. Search for an internet speed tester, which will tell you how fast your connection is. A similar site will tell you what ports it can access. After that, if all looks ok, look at getting different hardware especially if you share your connection.

On a side note I bought a system with similar stats to yours recently and I'm really pleased with it too ^^ Hope you get this resolved soon